Go here to see the map of the United States carved up like a Christmas Goose!
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123051100709638419.html
WALL STREET JOURNAL
Monday, December 29, 2008
DECEMBER 29, 2008 As if Things Weren’t Bad Enough, Russian Professor Predicts End of U.S.
In Moscow, Igor Panarin’s Forecasts Are All the Rage; America ‘Disintegrates’ in 2010Article
MOSCOW — For a decade, Russian academic Igor Panarin has been predicting the U.S. will fall apart in 2010. For most of that time, he admits, few took his argument — that an economic and moral collapse will trigger a civil war and the eventual breakup of the U.S. — very seriously. Now he’s found an eager audience: Russian state media.
Igor Panarin
In recent weeks, he’s been interviewed as much as twice a day about his predictions. "It’s a record," says Prof. Panarin. "But I think the attention is going to grow even stronger."
Prof. Panarin, 50 years old, is not a fringe figure. A former KGB analyst, he is dean of the Russian Foreign Ministry’s academy for future diplomats. He is invited to Kremlin receptions, lectures students, publishes books, and appears in the media as an expert on U.S.-Russia relations.
But it’s his bleak forecast for the U.S. that is music to the ears of the Kremlin, which in recent years has blamed Washington for everything from instability in the Middle East to the global financial crisis. Mr. Panarin’s views also fit neatly with the Kremlin’s narrative that Russia is returning to its rightful place on the world stage after the weakness of the 1990s, when many feared that the country would go economically and politically bankrupt and break into separate territories.
A polite and cheerful man with a buzz cut, Mr. Panarin insists he does not dislike Americans. But he warns that the outlook for them is dire.
"There’s a 55-45% chance right now that disintegration will occur," he says. "One could rejoice in that process," he adds, poker-faced. "But if we’re talking reasonably, it’s not the best scenario — for Russia." Though Russia would become more powerful on the global stage, he says, its economy would suffer because it currently depends heavily on the dollar and on trade with the U.S.
Mr. Panarin posits, in brief, that mass immigration, economic decline, and moral degradation will trigger a civil war next fall and the collapse of the dollar. Around the end of June 2010, or early July, he says, the U.S. will break into six pieces — with Alaska reverting to Russian control.
In addition to increasing coverage in state media, which are tightly controlled by the Kremlin, Mr. Panarin’s ideas are now being widely discussed among local experts. He presented his theory at a recent roundtable discussion at the Foreign Ministry. The country’s top international relations school has hosted him as a keynote speaker. During an appearance on the state TV channel Rossiya, the station cut between his comments and TV footage of lines at soup kitchens and crowds of homeless people in the U.S. The professor has also been featured on the Kremlin’s English-language propaganda channel, Russia Today.
Mr. Panarin’s apocalyptic vision "reflects a very pronounced degree of anti-Americanism in Russia today," says Vladimir Pozner, a prominent TV journalist in Russia. "It’s much stronger than it was in the Soviet Union."
Mr. Pozner and other Russian commentators and experts on the U.S. dismiss Mr. Panarin’s predictions. "Crazy ideas are not usually discussed by serious people," says Sergei Rogov, director of the government-run Institute for U.S. and Canadian Studies, who thinks Mr. Panarin’s theories don’t hold water.
Mr. Panarin’s résumé includes many years in the Soviet KGB, an experience shared by other top Russian officials. His office, in downtown Moscow, shows his national pride, with pennants on the wall bearing the emblem of the FSB, the KGB’s successor agency. It is also full of statuettes of eagles; a double-headed eagle was the symbol of czarist Russia.
The professor says he began his career in the KGB in 1976. In post-Soviet Russia, he got a doctorate in political science, studied U.S. economics, and worked for FAPSI, then the Russian equivalent of the U.S. National Security Agency. He says he did strategy forecasts for then-President Boris Yeltsin, adding that the details are "classified."
In September 1998, he attended a conference in Linz, Austria, devoted to information warfare, the use of data to get an edge over a rival. It was there, in front of 400 fellow delegates, that he first presented his theory about the collapse of the U.S. in 2010.
"When I pushed the button on my computer and the map of the United States disintegrated, hundreds of people cried out in surprise," he remembers. He says most in the audience were skeptical. "They didn’t believe me."
At the end of the presentation, he says many delegates asked him to autograph copies of the map showing a dismember
Putin has publicly said, "The world will go to war over natural resouces."
Mexico held a summit in 2007 with Russia, China, Japan, Canada, Korea… And America was not invited. Perhaps they discussed divvying up the United States then.
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The Toe 13th March 2010
Heh, bullshit.
The US won’t split up and if it did,
california wouldn’t go to fucking china.
-The Toe
lherman79 13th March 2010
Yeah, we’ve been teetering on the brink of a civil war…um this nation will never have a civil war in its unarmed and soft citizen base. Maybe we won’t be a globally dominant because our kids study liberal arts degrees instead of being doctors or engineers, but just incase I’ll keep a duffel packed for my evacuation to Canada.
Tolstoyevsky 13th March 2010
I would not doubt that America and Americans are a source of great confusion to (pardon the expression; no offense intended): "the Russian mind."
The whole place is one great chaotic mess that should have disintegrated long ago…and yet, after 200-years, still ticking. Presidents change every 4 to 8 years, one house of our "parliament" is completely up for grabs every 2 years. And yet, governments don’t fall, and the only rioting in the streets tends to take place after football games.
Sorry, Sparky. The obituary is a tad premature.
Adam J 13th March 2010
Not gonna happen but amusing to read.
Jimmy Wales 13th March 2010
the map is of the federal reserve bank districts
Cossak 13th March 2010
CIA predicted too collapse for Russia in 2009,but it was 10 years and now they have another forecast,same with it,just idea of mad people…
Bo - Kasparov 13th March 2010
Russia doesn’t predict that! Just one lone man, hardly a whole nation.
Countries have a will to live. I have no doubt that Russia (remember what was said about my country many times throughout the ages) and the USA will both be around a while yet.
Mr. Speaker 13th March 2010
I’d say it’s not Russia, it’s just some crazy idiot who happens to be Russian.
Olga H 13th March 2010
The paper said Panarin’s dire predictions for the U.S. economy, initially made at an international conference in Australia 10 years ago at a time when the economy appeared strong, have been given more credence by this year’s events. http://en.rian.ru/world/20081124/118512713.html
The National Intelligence Council
# The whole international system—as constructed following WWII—will be revolutionized. Not only will new players—Brazil, Russia, India and China— have a seat at the international high table, they will bring new stakes and rules of the game.
# The unprecedented transfer of wealth roughly from West to East now under way will continue for the foreseeable future.
http://www.dni.gov/nic/NIC_2025_project.html
The Looming Dangers of American Debt
June 7, 2006
What does the term serf bring to mind? Poor, indebted, landless, forced labor—perhaps even medieval. Shockingly, serfdom is a reality many Americans may face in the future. Here is why.
The U.S. national debt now stands at more than $8.3 trillion, of which more than $2 trillion is owned by foreigners. Since 2000, the percentage of U.S. public debt owed to foreigners has doubled.
Take China for example. As of March of this year, China held over $321 billion worth of U.S. Treasuries, up from the $60 billion it owned at the end of 2000.
That is a huge chunk of potential economic or political influence. So much influence that if China even “reduces its Treasury purchases, the U.S. would run into difficulties” financing its debts, says the Nikkei Weekly. That same publication says Chinese leaders have boasted that because China is such an important lender to America, “Beijing is holding a dagger to Washington’s throat” (May 1).
http://www.thetrumpet.com…?page=article&id=2265
Mendeleyev 13th March 2010
Neither the USA or Russia will fall. This man’s 10 year old rantings are silly. Russia had been dropping population at alarming levels, less than 148 million spead over an area of 11 time zones. But Russia will survive and prosper. So will the USA. Happy new year! http://russianreport.wordpress.com/
Niclas 13th March 2010
haha it’s funny that’s all i can say